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Posted: 04 October 2008 08:54 AM   [ Ignore ]  
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“IN THE NAME OF GOD”
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I`m the student in urbanism field in shiraz UN ,entering in 86. this field is the newest field & we face with desinging & theorize work.
To be sucsessfully in this field we should see obviously around the space & have an creative mind.
For desinging the city we have to pay attation to people & their ideas & then desing the city.
  Importance: Urbanism withe people instead of urbanism for people.
But unfortounatly,the most of the planner didn`t study the urbanism basically & they are from variety field such as ,Economic,Geogeraphy,... .

“Have a pity on human being so who in the sky havae a mercy on you.!!”

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Posted: 04 October 2008 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]  
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Hi..
I have the opinion as the same as U ..
I think you had a great ideas about students who are accepted .They are from many major except Urbanism or architec & maybe they will have a problem in this field more than us..& U know. they don`t see the cities and future like us !!.. see you ..

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Posted: 04 October 2008 10:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]  
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Dear MAAH:

Thanks for being the first student this term to post onto the Planiran.com forums!  You’re brave and efficient!

As you know, the primary purpose of these exercises is to get everyone’s English up to speed.  I am thus going to be strict about grammar.  I will now go over your paragraph, sentence by sentence. 

I`m the student in urbanism field in shiraz UN ,#entering in 86.

If you are the only student of urbanism at Shiraz University, then “the” is correct.  If there are any other urbanism students, then you are “a” student.  It’s either “in the field of urbanism” or “of urbanism”.  Shiraz should be capitalized.  Spell out “university” (e.g., don’t use “UN”.  At the very least, if you want to abbreviate “university”, use “U.”).  The comma is also oddly placed.  You must have no space before the comma, and a single space after it.  Consider the following:

I’m a student in the field of urbanism at Shiraz University.  I entered the university in the Fall of ‘86.

Or:

I have been a student of urbanism at Shiraz University since ‘86. 

 
Or:  (try something new!)

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this field is the newest field & we face with desinging & theorize work.

All sentences need to begin with what?  A capital letter!  Oops.

What do you mean by “the newest field”?  Is it the newest academic field in our department?  The newest field ever?  How do you measure “newness” in an academic field?  I didn’t think “urbanism” was that “new”.  It’s been around for a while.  What are you really trying to say here?
“We face with…” sounds like a direct translation of the farsi - با...روبرو می‌شویم  - Alternatives include:  “we encounter”, “the field involves”, “incorporates”, and so on.  “Design” is spelled with a “gn”, not “ng”. 

Some options:

This field is relatively recent [compared to what?] and incorporates both design and theory.

 

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To be sucsessfully in this field we should see obviously around the space & have an creative mind.

Thanks for defining success in your field! 

Success is spelled with two c’s.  Note that the suffix “-ly” denotes an adverb. 

The word “should” is weak.  “Must” is more emphatic.  Alternatively you could say “need to be able to”. 
What do you mean by “see obviously around the space”?  It’s not clear.  Elaborate on it.  Perhaps it might help for you to itemize, or to describe the different steps involved in “seeing around a space.”

Article use:  Use “a” before a consonant, and “an” before a vowel.  E.g., “a car”, vs. “an apple”.  “Creative” starts with the letter “c” so this should be “a creative mind”. 

In sum: 

To be successful in this field requires spatial awareness and a creative mind.

For desinging the city we have to pay attation to people & their ideas & then desing the city.

You have some spelling errors here.  Also, the sentence is somewhat redundant (repetitive), e.g., “for designing…then design…”  As to the content of the sentence, what does “paying attention to people and their ideas” involve?  Do we just look up, see the people, then ignore them and go back to our design?  Feel free to clarify your thoughts on this matter.

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Importance: Urbanism withe people instead of urbanism for people.

This sounds like an aphorism (look it up).  Is this your motto?  You have only one typo (withe). 

As to the content:  Why did you use the word “instead”?  Shouldn’t this be inclusive?  “Urbanism by the people, with the people, for the people”.  This reminds me of the Gettysburg Address:

we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

Your last sentence is:

But unfortounatly,#the most of the planner didn`t study the urbanism basically & they are from variety field such as ,Economic,Geogeraphy,… .

Unfortunately, you misspelled “unfortunately”.  “But” and “unfortunately” are redundant.  Here we see the spacing error related to your use of commas.  There should be no space before the comma, and one space after.  This, this, and that.  “Economic” and “geography” don’t need to be capitalized, do you know why? 

“the most of the planner…the urbanism” shows a lack of awareness of the article “the”.  I think what you’re trying to say is:

Unfortunately, most planners come from fields such as economics or geography and haven’t studied urbanism.

Please take the time to rewrite your post.  Correct the grammatical errors and elaborate on the content as noted.

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Posted: 04 October 2008 11:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]  
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Hi Mona!  I will get to your post next. 

In the meantime, some thoughts on your response:

Mona - 04 October 2008 10:18 AM

Hi..
I have the opinion as the same as U ..
I think you had a great ideas about students who are accepted .They are from many major except Urbanism or architec & maybe they will have a problem in this field more than us..& U know. they don`t see the cities and future like us !!.. see you ..

I have the same opinion as you.

It’s either “a great idea”, or several “great ideas”.  It’s also “many majors” vs. “one major”.

No need to capitalize “urbanism”. 

Why “had” a great idea?  How about “make a good point”?

You have a punctuation/spacing issue.  No space BEFORE the punctuation, and two spaces AFTER a full stop.

I think you are trying to say the following:

I share your opinion.  I think you make a good point about students who have been accepted into this field from majors other than urbanism or architecture.  They will have greater problems in this field than we will.  As you know, they don’t see cities and the future like we do.

As for me, I think that students from a variety of majors will bring more value to the field.  Different perspectives will add diversity and strengthen understanding.  I think it’s great that different people see cities or the future in different ways.  Divergent viewpoints often help you clarify your own thoughts better than similar viewpoints.

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Posted: 05 October 2008 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]  
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In 90,s humans are looking for something more than science like intelligence.
And this decade has continued until now. And it called informational decade
If we say in definition of decade use words like: Fax, Modem ,Cable, Internet and etc
Then, we can claim that urban and quarter spaces have been changed. 
In my opinion, in the information of decade, the cities should be magnificent to satisfied people. This beauty should be according to our culture and wanted.        Role’s of people is considered who knows beauty and create it. Having essential role   in beauty.

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